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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:00:00 -
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You know part of the problem is the lack of instruction on how to be a proper SL (Squad Leader), and another problem is the lack of anouncement on who is squad leader. Sometimes you do not get the war room, and you are just thrust into the game without knowing unless you know how to look for it. Overall when it comes to the CoC (Chain of Command) Dust514 needs a lot of work. A lot of work. So instead of complaining to people to be a better squad leader, how about you try voicing your concerns about what the real problem(s) are. Mmkay? |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.17 19:15:00 -
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:Yep, an indicator that you are squad leader is a must. I'm a (fairly) competent squad leader and sometimes i just flat out don't realize i'm leading. Whoops!
MAG's squad list system was perfect. In the corner of the screen was a small list that showed the names of the people in your squad, an indicator beside the squad leader's name, indicator if a member needed a medic, and the time countdown to next respawn of each member. All of that is crucial information. If the window was too distracting to you you could press a button to collapse it. I'm not a total MAG fanboy. The fact is that system i describe was perfect. You have every vital piece of info you need at a glance.
Also, It's really not beneficial to be leader as i always seem to get less SP and less ISK than my squad. That shouldn't be. As leader I spend more time fiddling with placing orders than i do hacking or killing. That's to be expected with anyone in a position of leadership (to not work so hard physically), but usually they get a much higher pay grade than the grunts do. The leader should be rewarded far more so that he actually wants to be leader and wants to do it well. Currently players either pass it off like a hot potato or just ignore the fact they are leader entirely. ::facepalm::
I would not call it perfect, but considering other games and how they implemented these features -- I'd say MAG is as close as you can get to being solid and noteworthy. As for having trouble acquiring points as a squad leader; I'd say it just takes time to get used to the flow being a squad leader. If Dust514 can fix these issues and institue a proper chain of command then I can see peeople flourishing and acquiring skill points. In MAG I had no problem obtaining kills and points as a squad leader, or above. Dust514 needs a lot of work though. Proper tutorials on how to use different modules, or equipment. How to use your squad leader commands, and how to call forth implacements or support. The list goes on, but fact remains MAG had this and it helped. Even if it was basic it did help a bit. Also putting in place priority would be nice. Players with points and a mic on should get positions first. As they did for (again) in MAG.
Not that I like bringing up MAG for examples, but the point is there is a lot to be salvaged and looked upon as what they did both right and wrong. Dust514 and CCP can learn a lot from that game and it's deceased developer. Not that Zipper did not deserve it's death. They screwed the pooch twice this generation alone. Not even counting how bad SOCOM3 was compared to it's predecessors. Anyway.. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:04:00 -
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SYST3M 0V3RL0AD wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote: Not that I like bringing up MAG for examples...
Agreed. It's known that alot of us MAG players have moved to DUST and i do hate when people on the forums say " DUST should be more like [insert favorite game here]" But the fact remains there are legitimate aspects of MAG that would lend themselves well to DUST since both games strive to value and reward leadership and teamwork. MAG wasn't perfect by any stretch, but alot of things worked very well. If MAG never existed i would likely recommend the same features anyway, it's just that MAG did exist and implemented alot of useful features that you can easily point to and say "do it like that, it works".
Agreed. Glad to see like minded people here. |
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